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3rd Party API integration
24\\September\\2011
18:59
deepakrana
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Dear Guile,

 

I would like to request for a following suggestion,  that the Guile 3D must provide API access to 3rd parties so that they can create thier own modules. Additional certified modules library can be created. If possible, some can be sold as well. Just like: Apple APP store.

 

I had this idea, clicked in mind, when I was searching to use YouTube API to integrate with Denise, so that Denise can remember my youtube account and play my library files which wanted to hear. APIs integration can bring a strong revolution in helping Denise build the knowledge and customise her with ones daily routine jobs.

 

Regards

Deepak K Rana

24\\September\\2011
20:11
Kode
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Deep

 

I think you are definetly on to something, however, there is a big picture to your thoughts and Guile is already on top of it.

 

Thanks

Kode

24\\September\\2011
21:46
Dominique
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I agree with Kode.  Besides, turning over so much accedss to Denise brings up the issue of someone altering her to be pirated.  With so much that she can do, not being able to create my own modules is a small price to pay in my opinion.

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25\\September\\2011
5:26
deepakrana
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Dominiue & Kode,

Thanks for responding.

 

See, the way in Apple Store, all the apps are controlled by Apple and there is no chance of piracy. I am not sure if SDK is already available. We can not provide the parameters of Denise to write something in the Denise DB, rather than API key can be generated which is used for each application to get parameters, if the applications wants to act in certain ways. For example: Youtube, if I wanted to  integrate YouTube, AIML is good, but it is very limited. Integrating API to Denise, Denise will only remember and work on the YouTube library, when give her command to use YouTube, My YouTube module will connect to my account and returns back with relavent options.

 

Following is the format we can look into:

 

Denise SDK > Guile 3D App Key generated > Certified Developers > Create Certified & Tested Module Apps > Available under Denise App Library [ Free / Paid ]

 

What are your suggestions ?

 

Regards

Deepak K Rana

25\\September\\2011
11:16
Dominique
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Mmmmm I disagree.  There is still a chance of piracy.  Apple product/apps get pirated all the time.  However that is just one issue at hand.

 

Another thing, you have to take into consideration that Denise is less than a year old.  So things are still in her infant stage.  Guile has his hand dipped into many projects regarding Denise so who knows exactly when he might get a chance to look at this idea.  However its def forum worthy to talk about.  Who knows, maybe Guile will chime in here in this thread and give you his take on the matter.  =)

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25\\September\\2011
13:43
Kode
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Deep

 

Guile is soon to release an entire sdk for denise so with that kit you should be able to create and or modify some modules which by the way would only dip my hands into if you are somewhat of a programmer…or have some knowledge of how to create the mods. Several members on the forum havent alot of programming skill but have experience with denise since the start and should be able to come up with something and if anything else Guile will make a manual for creating or modifying a module.

 

Thanks

Kode

26\\September\\2011
16:30
captquazar
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This time I'm in agreement with Kode and Dom.   I recall that Guile talked about Denise being open a long time ago.   And to work with all the different windows applications, Denise herself must conform to windows API rules.    For you programmer types, Denise is developed from the Borland Delphi / Pascal  tool set.   I believe it was always Guiles intention to release a Denise SDK.

But I also agree with Dom,   One has to be very carefull or you open yourself up to malware abuses.    Look at what is happening to Android OS.

Viruses and malware is sprouting like musrooms after a heavy rain.   Denise has been undergoing serious changes and major changes are planned for after the dragon release, one thing being a replacement of the graphics engine.      So the bottm line is that Denise is nowhere near ready for a SDK kit.   She must be stable with no changes for several months before a SDK kit would make sense.

28\\November\\2011
18:51
Ferdinand Foch
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I agree she needs to be stable first, but a third party api
would allow development of other products that could use her as an interface
would allow Guile et all to focus on developing the interface and not the applications
that go with her. From the big picture I see her as the main UI for the
computer but to make that leap other developers will have to be able to use her
which demands a set of standard API’s. Can you imagine how cool it would be to
see something like “Firefox 5.x is now Denise compliant! “

28\\November\\2011
19:15
captquazar
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Dear Ferd,   Guile definitely is working on a SDK and Denise being like the 'MCP'  Master control program.   He even got legal control over the

"NextOS" name and domain.   There are still a large number of significant changes to Denise coming, the three big ones being a new graphics engine, a full 3d avatar body.  and a 'second level brain layer'.    There is no time line on when all this will be ready.   But a SDK does not make a lot of sense until they are done and stable.   I think one depends on the other, for example, OK you got a full body with X degrees of motions.

What do you do with it?   What actions and body language do you perform under what conditions?   Got to have AI for the simulation.

28\\November\\2011
19:21
Dominique
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captquazar said:

Dear Ferd,   Guile definitely is working on a SDK and Denise being like the 'MCP'  Master control program.   He even got legal control over the

"NextOS" name and domain.   There are still a large number of significant changes to Denise coming, the three big ones being a new graphics engine, a full 3d avatar body.  and a 'second level brain layer'.    There is no time line on when all this will be ready.   But a SDK does not make a lot of sense until they are done and stable.   I think one depends on the other, for example, OK you got a full body with X degrees of motions.

What do you do with it?   What actions and body language do you perform under what conditions?   Got to have AI for the simulation.


 

You are missing yet another MAJOR change coming that Guile told me about that he hasnt put on the forum.  I do not know if it is cool for me to reveal it but lets just say, according to Guile it is HUGE and will hopefully be here by sometime in December 2011.

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